Is 10,000 km or 1 year really the right time for the first oil change for a Porsche Panamera?
Published on December 16, 2018
First oil change for Panamera
I recently received this question from a reader who purchased a Panamera 4E Hybrid.
What do you guys do when it's time to change the oil in your Panamera? From the dealerReplacement at 1 year or 10,000 km is OK."I was told that, but apparently, everyone seems to have changed it earlier the first time...
And. Indeed...
As for modern Porsches, dealers canFirst oil change after one year or 10,000 kilometers.I didn't know that................................... Is that because it is a hybrid car or is it the same with a regular Panamera....
Incidentally, for our 971 Panamera Turbo and the 970 Panamera Edition that we had before, our dealer recommended 1000 km, so we changed the oil once at 1000-1500 km.I don't know about hybrids because I don't have any information about them."I thought.
I asked my readers!
And then I suddenly remembered. beforePorsche Owner's File, who provided us with the information in Porsche Owner's File, Pol Pol Pol 4E.might know something about the timing of the first oil change for the Panamera 4E Hybrid! I contacted them immediately and received this reply right away.
The timing of the first oil change for the Hybrid you requested.Replace after one year or 10,000 km.It is explained that(I have reconfirmed this today with the sales representative of a dealer in Tokyo).I asked, "aside from the 4E, aren't turbo and other models supposed to be replaced in 3-6 months?" I asked.In the past, high-output engines ran so well that they produced iron shavings and dust, so we had to change the oil earlier.he said.(They have been following this policy for about 5-6 years, I have not heard about other models such as 911).Apparently, this is the official view.
Oh yeah!(Pol Pol 4E.Thank you for the valuable information!)
If this is the case with the Panamera, I wonder if it is the same for the 911, Boxster, and Cayman. Also, what about cars like the GT3, I wonder if they have a different view...I am very curious.
Also, Pol Pol 4E's email continued.
The other day, I was driving a Panamera 4E Hybrid when all of a sudden, the car started running as if it had stalled, and a yellow alert appeared saying, "Engine output low, can run, service required..." A few minutes later, no matter how hard I pressed the accelerator pedal, the car could only run at 3~4 km/h. After a few minutes, I called an emergency tow truck and took a taxi home. A few minutes later, no matter how hard we pressed the accelerator pedal, the car could only run at 3~4 km/h. Finally, we called an emergency tow truck and took a cab home. I would like to write an archive of the cause of this alert, the dealer's response, and the outcome.
Well, that's a big deal.
However, I would love to see that valuable archive and post the series of events, including the cause and the dealer's response, on my blog (LOL).
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I recently purchased a used 970 Panamera S E Hybrid.
As it is, I used to look coldly at Porsche hybrids as a bitter effort to reduce CO2 emissions, but I love plug-in hybrids! I'm going to flip out as fast as I can. The Taikan is tempting, but until the infrastructure for charging stations in Japan is in place, I think I will go with plug-in hybrids for vehicles that are expected to be used for long distances.
In the case of plug-in hybrids, the indicated mileage is the engine operating distance, so it may be difficult to judge. The dealer also told me that the oil change once a year is fine for modern cars as long as the car is not too over-driven.
By the way, when I bought my 981 Boxster GTS as a new car before, I replaced it at 1000km or 5000km after delivery, and after that, I think I replaced it around 1 year or 10000km.
I just now noticed that there is an English version of this blog. And I am afraid to say that even the comments have been translated.
isiB.
Oh, thank you for providing that information so quickly!
>I like the plug-in hybrid! I'll do my best to flip it.
I see... (LOL) All-out hand-wringing...! I've been hearing a lot about people driving hybrids lately, too, and I'm starting to envy them.
>I'm not too nervous about it and think it's fine to change the oil once a year or so. The dealer also said that the oil change once a year is fine for modern cars as long as the car is not too over-driven.
I knew it!
>By the way, when I bought my 981 Boxster GTS as a new car before, I replaced it at 1000km or 5000km after delivery, and after that I replaced it at about 1 year or 10,000km.
I see!!! I think my husband used to change the oil at such a frequency. I have an image that the oil in a Boxster GTS might get dirty easily since the engine is run with a lot of gusto.
Is that not the case these days?
>Now I realize that there is an English version of this blog. And I am afraid that even the comments have been translated.
Oh, thank you for finding it! However, my husband set up a system that automatically translates English for me, so I didn't do anything special ^^;
So the Japanese word for "bomb" is translated as "bomb," and there are some oddities in places (laughs).
Sorry to talk about something other than Porsche.
Before the current 958, I had four BMWs and the first oil change was 2000 km.
The reason is that high-end European cars seem to have a combination of cylinder blocks and pistons that have good tolerances that fit well together because they have good traceability, and the oil does not get contaminated.
Moreover, it seems that the oil change itself is anti-ecological!
Mr. Wind Slope.
>I apologize for the non-Porsche talk.
No, not at all! Thank you for your valuable information!
>Before the current 958, I had 4 BMWs and the first oil change was 2000 km.
Heh! I see! So the oil doesn't get that dirty!
>Moreover, the oil change itself is said to be anti-ecological!
Oh, I see...! That's certainly true when you put it that way. Discarding old oil is not ecological in itself...
European standards for environmental measures seem to be strict, and manufacturers are improving their products accordingly.
Thank you for your valuable information!
This kind of information exchange is very much appreciated.
The current Maserati Ghibli was one year or 10,000 miles (16,000 km) from the first time, and roughly every year after that; I only drove it for 3 years, so I don't know what would have happened after that if I had kept the pace.
Right now I have a Panamera 4Ehybrid and it looks like I'm unlikely to drive it in severe conditions, so I'm thinking I'll just do a year or 10,000 miles as the dealer told me.
Opinions seem to vary even among the Prius version and others, such as that a hybrid should be slow because it uses the engine less, or that it should be fast because it repeatedly stops and starts the engine.
Mr. SN.
>This kind of information exchange is very much appreciated.
Thank you! I was originally inspired by SN's question, so I thought I'd share it with you.
If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to message me.
I'm learning a lot too!
>It seems that opinions vary even among the Prius version and others, such as that a hybrid should be slow because it uses the engine less, or that it should be fast because it repeatedly stops and starts the engine.
I see. So there's a lot of variation even within the same hybrid... and even with regard to break-in, different manufacturers have very different views.
I don't know what the right answer is for oil changes either, but if you mean 10,000 miles or 10,000 km at the dealer, that sounds good ^^^.
Mina.
Hello.
My dealer rep, Mr. H, replaced the first one at about 2000 km.
He says, "Let's do it.
I asked him if he wanted to do it at around 1,000 km. I asked him, "Well, but it's a little too early.
This was the case.
And I just drove about 2,000 km to Osaka and back during the year-end and New Year's holidays.
I have an appointment for an oil/filter change at the beginning of the year because it looks like it will be running.
I'm getting a little used to the car and driving it all over the place.
I felt a slight response (or foot response) at the 500 km mark.
I think it has changed.
The smoothness of acceleration from low speed to high speed seems to be even better than just after delivery.......
I still haven't mastered the control panel, and yesterday when I returned home and used the parking
Wing was out. Blast.
Also, the mirrors are supposed to be set so that they face down when the car is backed up.
This was not easy to get 100% working.
Is there some kind of operating condition? If you know, I would be happy to know.
It's in the Trisetts! If so, please note that tightly. LOL!
How to support your life, Mr.
Thank you!
>I asked him if he would do it at around 1000 km. I asked him if he would do it at 1000 km, he said "hmmm, but it's a little too early".
I see! Even if it is only optional, 1000km seems a little too fast ^^;
>I'm going to be driving about 2,000 km during the year-end and New Year's trips to Osaka and back.
>I have an appointment for an oil/filter change at the beginning of the year because it looks like it will be running.
Ah, I see, that's just in time!
>I'm getting a little used to the car and driving it all over the place.
>I was able to get a little bit of a response (or at least a foot response) after about 500 km.
>I think it's changing.
It sure does! I'd say it gets more familiar, or more responsive, or maybe the Panamera has learned? It's almost as if it has.
You start to breathe with the driver.
But still, Turbo Executive, must be tremendous acceleration...!
>I'm sure the mirror is set up so that when you put it in reverse again, the mirror is facing down.
>This is having a hard time getting 100% to work.
>Is there some kind of operating condition? If you know, I would be happy to know.
>This is written in the trisetts! Then please note that tightly. LOL!
I see!!! I too have had trouble with mechanicals, even though they should work, and I've had dealers set them up for me...
And there are many things that I have not been able to solve on my own ^^^;
I asked my husband about it.
The door mirror on the passenger side (left?) should be facing down." If this switch is not turned on, the mirror will not work. If this switch is not turned on, the mirror will not work.
I see that in the specs, but it doesn't say that...
= =
Mirrors/glass automatically face down
When the ignition is ON
The function must be working.
See chapter "Vehicle Settings" on page 141.
= =
and the chapter on vehicle setup did not specifically mention mirrors...
Hello.
I drive a bare Panamera.
I've got just over 2000K miles on it now, so I contacted the dealer.
If you can get it replaced once between 3000-4000Km or so, it should be fine.
I was advised to wait until after I had ridden a bit more.
It is of course free for voluntary exchange at the earliest minute, and 1 year or 10,000 Km is the figure for the warranty.
Kaz.
Thank you for the information!
>I'm just over 2000K miles now, so I contacted the dealer.
>If you can get it replaced once between 3000-4000Km or so, it will be fine.
>I was advised to wait until after a few more rides.
I see...you are right! You are a very kind dealer.
>Obviously, you are free to replace it voluntarily at the earliest minute, and 1 year or 10,000Km is the figure for the warranty.
Ah, I see, that makes it easier to understand. After all, unlike the sports cars of the past, performance has improved, and even from the manufacturer's point of view, it is no longer necessary to change the oil at such an early stage.
Thank you! We will share more here in a separate post!
Hello Mina.
On the 718 (MY2017) the oil change seems to be "15,000 km or 1 year". Of course, I think they are talking about using the idle stop function.
In my case, I replaced it once after the break-in period (5,000 km, but I planned to change it after 6,500 km) because I could not get rid of the old feeling of the car. The maintenance staff at Porsche Center Fukuoka also seemed to be of the opinion that it was OK to replace it only for the first time. At my driving pace, it would be less than 15,000 km in a year, so I replaced it after 1 year inspection (16,600 km) and 2 year inspection (28,300 km).
I imagined that the recent 2-year inspection would not reveal anything about the replacement, but it is troubling to see that after the replacement, the rotation becomes a little lighter, but only a little.
PorscheDreamer.
>718 (MY2017) seems to say that the oil change is "15,000 km or 1 year". Of course I think you are talking about using the idle stop function.
Ah, so it's 15,000 km! I see! Is it different again for 981 and 718?
It would be nice if we could ask for an oil change at the time of the one-year or two-year inspection, so that we do not have to take the car to the dealer just for an oil change.
>I imagined that the recent 2-year inspection would not reveal anything about the replacement, but it is troubling to see that the rotation becomes a little lighter after the replacement.
I see..........................;
I'm a lightweight fellow!
I drive a 991 late model Carrera and it is recommended to change it when it reaches 1 year or 10000 km earlier. The filter is changed every two times.
I change mine at 5000 km and 13,000 km, but the timing is blurred by dealer oil change campaigns, etc. LOL!
What I want to talk about here is that at the time of the first replacement, at the authorized dealer, I asked, "It should be done within a year or 10,000 km, right?" I asked him, and he said, "You should go within 5000 km at first.
This is because the oil in the car at delivery is not Mobile1 itself, but contains a lot of cleaning ingredients. So we recommend the first change after break-in."
This was the case. I had never read this story on the internet before, so I had to write about it.
I wonder if anyone has heard a similar story.
Masayasan (third highest of the eight hereditary titles)
>My light four friends!
lol I haven't had a chance to drive a loaner car since then, but I'm still thinking that I'm done with light cars... ^^^.
>I am driving a late 991 Carrera and it is recommended to change it when it reaches 1 year or 10000 km earlier. The filter is changed every 2 times.
I see, so it is with the modern 911!
>"It is better to go within 5000 km at first.
>"This is because the oil in the car at delivery is not Mobile1 itself, but contains a lot of cleaning ingredients. So the first change is recommended after break-in."
I see!!! I didn't know that! I didn't see anything like that in the comments section either. Thanks for the valuable info!
Every time I look at my oil change statement, it shows Mobile1, so I thought that was the case from the beginning, but it's not!