Why did you buy a used Porsche 911 (early 991)?
Release date: 2021.10.10
Some readerswhyAlso owns the latest 992And until the other dayGT3 Touring PackageWhy did I bother to buy an old-fashioned 991 early model as a second-hand model?Is it? Some people may be wondering.
Why did you choose the 991 type, which is lower than the 992 and GT3 in terms of performance this time? And did you choose the early model? I would like to talk about that.
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Why do you bother to buy an old model that is inferior in performance?
I used to think the same way. "The latest Porsche is the best Porsche.I didn't understand the meaning of buying an old model with low performance and high risk of failure.
However, while experiencing various Porsche every week and owning a 964 type air-cooled Porsche myself, while owning an ultra-high performance GT3 and Panamera turbo,Expanded knowledge and horizons for carsThat is a big place.
GT3 touring package I owned
Also, in the case of Porsche, it still provides classic parts, soThe concept of mold drop is thinner than other manufacturers.. Therefore, it is a recognition that there is simply a model for each era, and each model has its own individuality.
on that evidence,Even people with financial strength enough to buy the latest Porsche can afford to buy a used PorscheAnd if anything, buy an older classic air-cooled Porsche at a higher price than a new car.
And because of that demand, the used car market is generally high.
Also, this is my personal preference,High performance = not always fun.. "The expensive Porsche"Most fortunate"It's not always Porsche. ”I feel strongly these days.
Air-cooled Porsche 964 type Carrera 2
Of course, I understand the fun of ultra-high performance, and I have no intention of denying it.In fact, the demon-like stability, power, and handling of the 992 and GT3 are still impressive.
On the other hand, I am impressed by the smooth rotation feel of the air-cooled Porsche, the feeling of operation and vibration, the engine sound, and the good balance of the engine, speed and sound of the water-cooled regular Porsche.
For me"Good cars," "fast cars," and "fun cars" are not always equal.The balance between them is important to me, and I like "a car that makes me feel happy and wants to drive as much as I want."
When I thought so, I tried the test drive before the first half of 991Carrera S CabrioletandCarrera, Carrera SThe experience was strongly memorable.
What is the appeal of the early model (991.1) of 991?
If I express 991.1 in one word"Emotional 911"I want to express it.
The speed is defeated by the late model (991.2) and 992 of 991, and the characteristics and ride quality of the old-fashioned RR are defeated before 997. With that said, you might think that there is nothing good about it, but 991.1 isn't that appealing.
The appeal of 991.1 is the good balance of the amount of information that appeals to the five human senses.It is in. It's not that some performance is outstanding, but the level of each performance is in place.
Carrera S Cabriolet in the first half of 991
Difference in engine characteristics
The 911.1 has a naturally aspirated (NA) engine. The torque is thinner than the 911 after the latter half with the turbo, and above all, the generated rotation range is different. If you actually look at the torque curves between the Carrera in the first half and the second half, it is obvious.
The torque of the first half (NA) is 390N ・ m / 5600rpm, and the torque of the second half (turbo) is 450N ・ m / 1700-5000rpm.
The late model has a trapezoidal torque curve, while the early model has a gentle upward curve. If you compare it to a bicycleThe late model starts rowing suddenly, and the early model gradually increases the number of pedal revolutions.It is.
Therefore, the late model is much more powerful from the start. At just 1700 rpm, it easily exceeds the maximum torque of the previous model, so it accelerates sufficiently quickly without increasing the rotation so much. On the other hand, the early model has a feeling of gradually increasing the speed by turning the engine with low gear and increasing the rotation.
If you look at this, you might think that the late engine is better and has only merit. That's true. There is only merit in terms of driving performance.You can move swiftly even in a city that makes heavy use of low revs, and you can join at high speeds quickly. In winding, there is enough instantaneous power from the exit of the corner.
On the other hand, the early model is an NA engine, so torque is generated as the rotation increases, so there is not much instantaneous force, and in order to generate torque, it is necessary to keep the needle of the tachometer in the middle to high rotation range. .. Therefore, if you do not step on the accelerator with a low gear to increase the rotation even at high speed merging, you will not get the feeling of acceleration like the latter model.
In addition, the chassis of the latter model has been further aged, and although the ride is a little dry, the stability of the rear and the feeling of ground contact have definitely evolved from the earlier model.
If you write so far,What is good about the low-performance early model?Would be thought.
It cannot always be said that "high performance = fun"
However, 991.1 has an appeal that cannot be expressed in terms of performance. From here on, it's something I personally feel, so let me first say that it's not an objective story.
For example, a winding scene. The tachometer needle rises in response to the gradually increasing speed, and the engine sound gradually increases in volume.
The body is not tightened as much as the latter model, and the suspension enters the corner while leaving a moderate "bend". Here, too, the load is gradually applied, and the feeling of contact with the tires and the condition of the road surface can be felt from the steering.
991.1 has moderate speed and cornering. In other words, it's not dry, it's a wet and analog driving feeling. However, the balance of each looseness is just right.
The looseness of speed acceleration and the looseness of cornering fit perfectly, and in addition, the sound production is added. The range of exhaust sound and intake sound becomes higher, and it begins to synchronize with the sense of speed.
Speed, sound, and torque excitement are all synchronized and tuned.Then 911 begins to shake my emotions. And I feel "fun" and want to drive as much as I want.
The driving feeling of 991.1 isIn movies and dramas, the excitement of the scene and the production of music fit perfectly.I want to express it.
It's not a horror movie that suddenly develops a scene or an action scene that is throbbing.A production that gradually reaches the climax of the storyis. The movie appeals to emotions,It's fun, you won't get bored even for a long time, you won't get tired, and you will endlessly try to watch it.The first is the "I" in "I".
I felt this through my test drive experience so far, so as I said at the beginning, I mentioned 991.1."Emotional 911"I had been interested in it for a long time.
Then maybe the older 911 would be fine?
as a side note,"Speaking of that, the older 911, air-cooled, 997 and 996 are in good tuning, well-balanced.I'm sure you will get a voice. I know that, and the 964 I own has the same charm, and I thought that the 996 I rode before was a 911 full of wonderful charm.
So why is it 991.1 apart from them?
On the contrary, it has higher performance than those 911, andThe last Carrera that can be driven as a modern car with NA engineThat is what appeals to me.
As mentioned above, although it loses performance to the late 991 and the latest 992, the PDK has become very sophisticated, and the engine power and reliability have improved. And the chassis performance is also extended with the wheelbase,From 991, it changed to a modern ride.
Its high performance is just right for me, it has become super high performance and turbochargedI like the exquisite standing position of less than 991.2 and more than 997It is. In addition, in order to comply with the recent strict fuel efficiency regulations and noise regulations.The last model before various controls and devices are fully adaptedThat is also a point that looks attractive.
This can be clearly understood by looking at the fact that it is a naturally aspirated engine with a large displacement that is disadvantageous for fuel efficiency and environmental regulations, that the PDK is 7th speed, and that shift control during cruising. For example, in the latest 992, the PDK is multi-staged and has 8 speeds in order to improve fuel efficiency, and the control is also modern specifications, and when you try to accelerate a little, the gear is dropped finely, but the 991 rotates relatively with the gear fixed. It is easy to get a relaxed feeling of acceleration because it tries to increase the speed by climbing. (Depending on the degree of learning how to ride)
Like thisThe attractive point of this model is the gap between the old style of small parts and the high performance of modern times.That is the point where I chose 991.1.
However, this is just an individual impression of 991.1, and each person will have different feelings and tastes in the first place.
So I'm not going to force you to recommend it.
However, if anyone is interested in 991.1, I hope this article helps.
There are still some parts that the appeal of 991.1 cannot be fully conveyed in the text, so I would like to talk about it occasionally in the Twitter space.
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I always enjoy looking at your site.
I'm glad that his wife's text is easy for beginners to read,
I also like sentences that stimulate the man's heart.
I live in Okayama prefecture, but I am worried about where to buy Porsche.
I am thinking of a certified used car in my hometown and nearby prefectures, but if I purchase it in a nearby prefecture,
Is it okay if you think it's fun to drive to a nearby prefecture?
What to do with maintenance, what to do when it breaks down,
If I can clear this, I would like to purchase it immediately.
Currently, I am looking at the information on certified used cars in Okayama, Hiroshima and Kobe every day.
Thank you for always having fun.
Thank you!
I think you don't have to worry about the distance of the store when it breaks down ^^
In case of emergency, you can carry it by loading car, and in the first place Porsche is fun to run to that point.
As Hiro says, I sincerely agree that "high performance = fun" is not always the case.
I'm riding a 996, which is why I chose the old style instead of the latest. (Although it was cheap ... lol)
Today's sports cars are certainly faster and easier to drive, but I feel that they have diminished the enjoyment of maneuvering themselves.
The same is true not only for Porsche but also for Ferrari. I used to test drive the latest F8, but compared to the previous 488 and 458, the electronic control intervention is larger and faster, so it is easier to drive than I can think of 720 horsepower. On the contrary, it was too easy and I missed the beat.
If it's just fun, I think the 458 and 488, or more specifically the F355, were the most fun.
While the higher performance has made it easier for anyone to enjoy driving, it has resulted in unfortunately unsatisfactory results for analog drivers like me.
Akasaka.
Thank you!
Certainly, recent sports cars are too high-performance, which is why the analog goodness of old sports cars is
I think it's being reviewed.
> I'm riding a 996, which is why I chose the old style instead of the latest.
My husband also said, "When I look at the design of 996 now, it's insanely beautiful and cool!"
When I see it, I follow it with my eyes (laughs)
I hope you will be able to tell us more about it.
Thank you for your continued support.
For Ferrari, the used price of 458 Spider has exceeded 488 Spider recently.
Perhaps, in the future, the situation where old cars are more expensive than new cars may become normal for some models.
Mr. hiro's wife I always enjoy reading my blog.
I'm a 45-year-old truck mechanic, but I rode a 991.1 rental car for the first time last year and instantly fell in love with Porsche!
Due to the influence of Corona, the rental car was rented at half price, so Supra, TT Coupe, Boxster, Banamera, C43, Macan, etc.
I rented it and rode it, but I was completely overwhelmed by the sound of NA and the comfort of PDK.
Also, if my father left in March of last year and wanted to live a life without regrets and made a noise about wanting Porsche, things went on with a ton ton and a 10-year loan for a 991,1 white carrera certified used car on Setagaya PC. I bought it and was able to deliver it according to my father's first anniversary in March of this year!
I bought it for 16000km and rode nearly 7000km in half a year, but it's really my ideal car.
The sound of naturally aspirated engine, the pleasant response, and the good balance are the best!
I will continue to do my best so that my 10-year-old daughter can own it until she grows up.
If even a mechanic wanted to spend his life buying it, he replied because he wanted to know that he could get it.
I'm looking forward to blogging from now on!
Mr. Morishita
Thank you for visiting our blog.
I bought it for> 16000km and rode nearly 7000km in half a year, but it's really my ideal car.
Congratulations! !! !! It's amazing! !! !!
Living a life without regrets is, in words, actually embodying it in action.
I think it requires a great deal of preparedness and effort.
It's really amazing, and I learned a lot from the text.
I'll do my best!
Thank you very much for telling me this way!
Hello. - Hello.
I also delivered 991.1 4s last Saturday.
Before that was Boxster and before that was a c43 cabriolet, so
Step on the accelerator, Hyun! Feels unsatisfactory.
(It's impossible to row immediately)
But my husband and I both chose at the same time and fell in love at first sight at the same time.
I think it's strange to have a connection.
My child is a humble, elegant, honest, cute and good girl.
(I'm sorry for self-praise)
It smells like Porsche, maybe this is it (laughs)
(Smell that cannot be explained)
Why is it balanced? Is it settled?
The place that does not overreact is also cute.
I like it very much.
A car, whether it's a new car or a used car
Whether to compromise and ride with satisfaction
What do you think it is.
If I can meet you someday, I would like to line up the cars and take pictures.
I'm looking forward to blogging from now on.
991.1 4S! Sounds good! congratulations!
It's very clear that "where it doesn't overreact".
By all means, I'd like to line up and shoot with 4 people someday.
I always read the couple's blog. Also, I saw it several times with my family on PTX. I'm shy, so I couldn't speak to him.
This article by hiro is very close to my idea, I bought the 718GT4 because I thought it was the last good NA engine although it was not 911, but I manually lowered the vehicle height, bucket seats, CUP2 tires, etc. It's good for circuit driving, but I feel a little uncomfortable for everyday riding. Also, probably because the engine sound of the 718 GT4 is based on the latest 992 engine, it's a bit thicker than the engine of 991.1 and 981, and the lack of high-speed sound is not good for me. (It's just a personal impression.)
In search of the right feeling and high-revving sound that Mr. hiro said, I was also investigating the 911.1 GTS with a car sensor at night.
When I tried the original 992 Carrera at PEC Tokyo the other day, I was admired by the latest 992 turbo, which is easy to ride and has a solid and versatile performance, but the instructor on board said, "It is lighter and more compact, 991.1. When I asked for something like "I want a model with an N engine like this.", The instructor also said, "It's like Alpine's A110. It's often said by customers who test drive." It was impressive.
(Strictly speaking, the A110 is a small displacement turbo ... (laughs))
We are looking forward to 991.1 impressions and touring articles in the future.
NA has a good point that turbo does not have, and it is unbearable for those who like it ^ ^
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you see us next time!
I am glad to meet you
I'm always looking forward to updating my blog
"Emotional 911", the content of this blog, I totally agree
I have driven various cars in the past.
I thought it was Porsche, so I went to test drive the 992 and met 991.1.
I intend to connect the purchase of 992. I bought a certified used car for immediate delivery, but it was too emotional and I got stuck in it.
Of course, I was impressed with the engine and running,
In the process of designing a car, I am fascinated by the lines created by the designers, pondering which lines look beautiful.
Just being in the car makes me feel the spirit of the people who created 911, and it's really strange, but for some reason it calms me down.
I'm already in love
I heard that an acquaintance would let go of the manual car 991.1, so I got an additional one, and now I own two 991.1 cars.
I'm glad you agreed ^^
However, I have two 991.1 units, and I envy MT and PDK!
I have also considered having two 981 Boxster GTS MT and PDK, so I can understand your feelings very well.
Congratulations on the delivery of your car.
As the same 991.1 Carrera ride, I was impressed that the splendor was expressed in sentences.
If you write so far, your nose will be high as an owner.
thank you very much.
I'm ashamed to say that I went to a distant golf course with Carrera, and after having had a backache when removing the bag from the passenger seat, I increased the number of Land Rover Crocan cars. Carrera rides about 1-2 times a month.
We also own a large motorcycle.
Riding sports cars, cross-country cars, and large motorcycles that accelerate faster than cars changed my attitude toward speed first and foremost.
We put safety first, and we are careful not to speed up too much or cause an accident.
I would like Hiro to try a large motorcycle.
The approach to the car may change.
No, you are welcome ^^
I really thought that 991.1 was well-balanced and a very good 911, so I wrote an honest impression ^^
I'm afraid I want to ride a large motorcycle, but I'm worried that I have to lift the limitation and I don't have time to ride a car or motorcycle anymore. But someday I would like to ride it.
nice to meet you. I am always looking forward to seeing the couple's blog.
Until now, I have mainly transferred between Japanese, German, and British cars, but
Since my family owned Panamera as the first Porsche 7 years ago, I became completely addicted to Porsche
Currently there are three units: 991.1 C4S (it looks like GTS because it is Cup aero), 958.2 Cayenne S, Macan GTS.
I often sympathize with what you said on your blog before.
This article expresses what I feel on a daily basis in clean and easy-to-understand sentences.
(It's far more transmitted than a bad critic) I started to be happy and commented.
As you said, one of the beauty of 991.1 for me is that it is very well-balanced in many ways.
It's been 5 years since I owned it, but I've never got tired of it, and it's the longest car I've ever owned.
There have been pros and cons about the longer wheelbase since the announcement,
Personally, I think it is an inevitable evolution in overcoming the physical disadvantages of 911.
I compared it with my friend's 997 before purchasing, but for my current driving style
I felt that 991 was more comfortable.
The northeastern part of the United States where I live is relatively snowy in winter,
It's winter fun to put on snow tires and often go out for driving training early in the morning.
It ’s a fun car that is very easy to control even on snow, and it ’s a sports car that you can ride every day.
It's the moment you feel.
One of the great things about the 911 car is that it doesn't change much at the root.
Each generation has its own strengths and weaknesses, and it is often said that the latest is the best.
From my point of view, each person has their own taste
(Driving changes depending on age. I'm feeling the decline recently.)
I think there is a place where you can choose what suits you from various generations and grades.
It is not possible to join us for touring or events from the United States,
I am looking forward to impressions and discussions about 911 and Porsche in the future.
Please continue this blog for a long time.
Thank you for reading from the United States! !!
I sometimes go to the United States on a business trip and rent a car to run in various places, but I always think "I want to run here with my Porsche car"
I really envy you because there are many wonderful roads and scenery.
I think that's exactly what you say. On the other hand, it is a fact that the information is scarce and everyone is at a loss to buy it.
I would like to report on the blog with a little help, so please continue to support me.
4GTS is good.
There was no timing to meet at all, and at first I thought it was RR.
991.1 4S will look for 4GTS.
I'm sure there aren't many things to come out.
Also, there are no more restrictions on motorcycles now.
If you go to a driving school, you can get a big ride.
I imagine that the title of the blog will change when Mr. HIRO, who is a enthusiastic and discerning group, embarks on a large motorcycle.
Unlike a motorcycle, you can drive a car unreasonably, so please be careful about safety.
When I go touring by motorcycle, I strongly try to return safely to my family.
Thank you very much.
I know that I can get a large driver's license at a driving school, but I can't take care of my car or motorcycle any longer ^^;
If I'm retired, I might go get it (laughs)
I always enjoy looking at your site.
I was looking for a Cayman certified used car, but
I started to worry because 911 came out in the same price range.
I have never rode it, so I would like to ask Mr. Hiro, who is an experienced person.
Cayman has PASM and sports chrono after 5 years,
911 is 10 years old and only sports chrono,
It is used for commuting and occasional touring.
Please let us know your opinions.
Hello.
It is difficult to judge from the information you received, but are you comparing 997 and 981 Cayman?
It depends on the purpose of buying Porsche rather than the option, but if you want to taste the air-cooled classical 911 taste, 997.
Instead, if you want to enjoy the movement of comfort + midship, I think 981 Cayman.