What it feels like to own a new and old Porsche 911 at the same time. Comparing the latest 992 and air-cooled 964.
Published on: 2021.08.29
Air-cooled Porsche 911 (964) is wonderful.
For some time now, my husband has been trying to get into a 992 911 that was "992 is great after all!" he said, and when he got into his 964 air-cooled Porsche 911, he said, "I'm not going to be able to964 is really good!He was saying, "I'm not a good person. However, my husband's words have changed a little recently.
If I had to choose between the 992 and the 964, I would choose the 964 without hesitation!
I started to say. What's wrong, suddenly w
964 makes me want to run everywhere.It is really fun to drive anywhere, on mountain passes, long distances, and ordinary roads, and its small size makes it easy to turn around and go anywhere. I drove 15 minutes on the national highway on my way home just now, and I can say for sure that the 964 is more fun than the 992 for that level of driving.
Of course, the 992 is fun too. It's a high performance car and a very nice car. But, I think that the "992" is a good car.Pleasant to drive.The level of "964" is much higher than 964. I wonder what this feeling is.
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My husband has always been a great admirer of the plain 992, and of course he still feels the same way. However, recently, I've been working withThe charm of the 964 is surpassing that wonderful 992 by leaps and bounds.It seems that, in fact, I have been riding the 964 every day these days.
Since delivery, the car has undergone a series of preliminary maintenance, and the suspension and ride quality are now close to that of a new car at the time, making it even more pleasant to drive.
It's just that I'm not a "992 and 964, yes, they are different in attractiveness, but what's the difference?I said, "The 992 is also a car that feels very direct to drive, and the handling is just as you want it to be, and it feels great.
I'm trying to figure out what the difference is between 964 and 992.Difference between "the pleasure of being in control" and "the pleasure of riding a super high-performance machineI don't know. It is difficult to say which one is better because they have different attractiveness and characteristics.
The 964 can be ridden at the will of the driver.
The 964 does not have electronic control, so even in the corners of Ashiu, the driver can directly feel the sensation of "stepping on the brake, shifting the load, and feeling the flexing of the tires and suspension when the steering wheel is bent to make a sharp turn.
Also, the 964 has a 4-speed Tipro, so acceleration is very smooth. Modern cars have 7 or 8 gears, so they upshift quickly.In the case of the 964, it accelerates smoothly with a stretch to any extent.
It fits the human senses...I can directly feel the sensation of being in control. That's why it makes you want to run wherever you want to go.
The 992 is also very comfortable to drive, but it is so high-performance that I feel like I am driving a cyborg... Compared to the 964, I feel less like I am in control when driving in the speed range of ordinary roads.
This was the case.
Porsche 911 (992 type) high performance
Then later that day, I drove the 992 for the first time in a long time. I was impressed once again with a very nice car.
But too good.
Hence, "I don't need such a high performance car right now...I even thought, "I'm not going to be able to do that.
If I were like my husband, I would go on long-distance touring trips, or go driving on mountain passes like the Ashiyu Driveway frequently, but my children are still small and my daily activities are limited to within a few kilometers from my home.
I wonder if it will be difficult for me to freely ride in a car for another 5-6 years until my oldest son, who is now 0 years old, goes to elementary school.
A person like me honestly does not need a 992 high performance Porsche. The precise and unmatched gas pedal work when stopping at a traffic light and starting off, the handling at will when turning right or left at an intersection.......that level of performance is completely cat and mouse........
Given that, I think that a 964 with a very solid base performance and a small body that can go anywhere would be something that would be easy to drive on a regular basis. My husband is a
I wish Porsche would revive a model like the 964 in the modern era, a smaller version of the 911, naming it the 711 or something (lol) I'd like that a lot. Well, I guess that's impossible, right?
However, I think that the 964 is too big and new for those who drive narrower cars, and I am a newcomer to them. Recently, I think I can understand why, when you get down to the bottom of Porsche, you go back to the old days, to the original Porsche.
He said.
Porsche, it is deep. I hope to be able to buy my own Porsche in a few years when my children are out of the way a bit, so that I can drive it anywhere with ease.
...I mean...Now I am in the process of ordering my own MT carI almost forgot to mention that I asked for it in mid-April, but due to the shortage of semiconductors and the flooding in Europe, they have not yet been able to get it into production. At first I thought it would come around June, but since there has been so little progress or communication, I almost forget about it sometimes...
The MT car that will be coming soon is a compact car with not much power, so I am sure that it will be a car that I can enjoy just as much as I do now. I hope it will come soon.
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Hi Mina.
This is unrelated to the main topic, but it looks like a European car.
Renault TWINGO, right?
Nak acid
> It has nothing to do with the main subject, but it looks like a European car
> Is it Renault Twingo?
Thank you!
It's a little different, but I hope you enjoy it!
Finally, we have production set for September!
I always enjoy it.
The 964's pleasantness is probably due to the fact that it is not too old and has a minimum level of comfort among air-cooled cars, and the sense of oneness with the car that comes from its compact body.
Also, it's not too high-performance, so I can accelerate to some extent.
This area is also similar to the Boxster GTS.
Human capacity, road width, and speed limits have not changed, but only cars are getting more and more sophisticated... sweat.
Mr. Tito.
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The comfort of> 964 is that it is not too old even in air cooling and has the minimum comfort, and the sense of unity with the car that comes from the compact body.
I see...! It's true that if we go too far into the previous model, it may be difficult to use depending on the season.
The modern 911 is still too big, and the 964 may really be just right.
I haven't been able to drive my 964 much lately, so I'm going to take this opportunity to drive it again.
> Even though human ability, road width, and speed limit do not change, only cars are getting better and better ... sweat
Indeed,,, you are right...! Sweat
Thank you very much! ^)
Yes, yes, yes - lol.
The more I ride PORSCHE, the more I want to go back to its roots. The older the model is, the more intense the PORSCHE is.
Well, I am going backwards from narrow to 930.
Driving itself is a pleasure, and anything that impedes that pleasure, even power steering, is unnecessary (^-^).
The sound of the engine and exhaust is like the sound of an orchestral instrument to me, so I like to listen to it with the windows fully open all year round. It is not the time to close the windows and let the air conditioner work, it is a waste of time.
Well, please don't listen to it as the ramblings of an idiot (^_^;)
hirobono acid
Thank you for everything!
> The more you get on PORSCHE, the more you want to go back to the origin. The older the model, the higher the PORSCHE concentration.
It is really deep. I imagine that the origin of Porsche, the 356, must be amazing.
> The engine sound and exhaust sound are also the sounds of orchestral instruments, so I want to listen to them with the windows fully open all year round. It's not the case when the windows are closed and the cooler is working, it's a waste (explosion)
That's what I'm talking about. !!!!! But when you open the window, you can hear the sound of the engine really differently.
It really is, isn't it?
I rented a 992 Carrera S the other day, and the newer one is the newest 911, so it's cooler (to me lol).
Too big and too fast to drive in Japan lol, I can't have an autobahn growing up in Japan. LOL!
Also, the electronic devices have improved, and the passenger car seems to have become quite easy to drive, seeming to be as good as Mercedes.
So, I think that the traditional 964 size is a good balance of horsepower and enough to meet the needs of the market. I always read your analyses with great interest.
cheapness
> It's too big and too fast to ride in Japan, lol, and growing up on the Autobahn is too much to carry in Japan. smile
It is true that it is a little difficult to ride in Japan, even if you do it in Germany;
It is absolutely impossible, but it would be nice to have a modern 911 in the size of 964, etc. (laugh).
964RS I was riding a German used parallel.
Before that, I was riding in parallel with a new car of 964 carrera2.
I was so happy and satisfied that I could drive 60,000 kilometers a year on Carrera 2, but I was shocked to drive my acquaintance's RS at the driving event, so I decided to buy that RS.
Only 10 horsepower up, but 120 kg lighter chassis, minus 10 kg unsprung weight with magnesium wheels,
The G50 / 10 transmission with a short stroke has a cross ratio, the flywheel is also 7 kg lighter, the brakes do not hang down even if you run the same course, etc. I wanted to be there, so after finishing work, I got home and got out of the garage and ran on a mountain road at night, and I ran more than 30,000 kilometers a year w
I intended to go from Tokyo to Hakone, but I ran until the sky became brighter, such as running the pass road from Lake Hamana to Suwa and returning in the center, or going around the capital highway through Kiyosato to Karuizawa. It was 25 years ago.