Base model of Porsche 718 Cayman｜How comfortable is the 18-inch ride without PASM?
Release Date: 2020.03.20
The other day.I spent a day with a 718 Cayman. Is a bare-bones Cayman really a good buy?Today, I would like to share with you the second part of that article.
718 Cayman, test drive
How is the suspension without PASM comfortable to ride on?
Is the PASM option necessary? An article calledhas written about this before. This 718 Cayman did not have PASM, but my husband
I never think it's a bad ride. Maybe I thought so especially since I have 18 inches this time.The car would sway and sway on rough pavement, but there was no unpleasant vibration that lingered uncomfortably, and there was no discomfort at all.
Compared to a vehicle with PASM, it is a little different in smoothness at high speed. But if you ride without knowing it, many people will not be able to tell whether you have PASM or not. That's about the difference.
He said.
In addition, he compared it to the BMW M2 Competition, saying.
It's often compared to BMW's M2 Competition in almost the same price range, but I'll tell you what I think after driving on the same track I drove the M2 Competition before.I honestly felt the Cayman had a better ground feel and stability than the Cayman.I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not. I feel the stability of the rear is different.
In terms of chassis performance, it's a bit of an upgrade.Porsche is only developing this chassis from scratch as a dedicated sports car chassis.I think. If it's this shiny in such a plain state, I have no complaints.
He said.
What do you care about the bare bones Cayman?
."On the other hand, was there anything that bothered you?I asked.
Frankly speaking, there is little to be concerned about when driving on normal Japanese roads.
If I may say so...Thin torque at very low speeds in normal modeI wonder. When I want to accelerate quickly after getting out of a stoplight, I sometimes feel a slight time lag of a breath or so. However, I don't think it's a problem specific to the bare GTS model, as it feels almost the same in the GTS.
On the other hand, if you put it in sport mode, you will hardly feel this negativity.In fact, if you leave it in sport mode, it idles at around 1000 rpm andThe engine is on standby for a quick turbo boost.No, it's not.
In this condition, the thinness of the torque I just mentioned is almost imperceptible. Therefore, theI would recommend always riding the 718 in sport mode.I think it's a better way to experience the Porsche character of the car. I think you can taste the Porsche-like quality more intensely that way.
What is the difference between this and 981?
I also asked about the differences between the 718 and the 981.
I've written about this before in other articles.The 718's suspension feels more solid and solid.Na.If 981 is soft, 718 is hard.So, when compared to the circuit times, etc., I think the 718 is totally faster.
The 981, on the other hand, is moist and supple. After driving the 718, I immediately got into my 981 Boxster GTS and my legs felt quite limber.
To put it a little more bluntly.One could say that the 718 is digital and the 981 is analog.The 718's suspension and engine clearly respond to the driver's input in a zero or one response, but the 981's response is more like a response that includes values in between.
I see...
And, speaking of differences, I'll tell you what else.Engine and exhaust soundYou know. They are completely different on this. The muffler of this car is a standard muffler, but it still has a very powerful sound. The turbo 4-cylinder engine of the 718 has a very geeky or powerful bass sound, whereas the 981's has a high pitched sound.
And.
Certainly...well, the engine sound is a matter of personal taste, but I felt that "the sound of the NA 981 is so soothing to the senses that I was moved to tears, but the sound of the 718 is different from that.
To those who are still lost
Finally, I would like to share the following statement written by my husband.
If you have concerns about buying a bare-bones model, and you're worried about "Does it have to be S or GTS?If you think, "I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do," check the following again.
1. They think that cars are all about power, and power is justice.
2. the grade hierarchy is important. I don't want to be side by side with a higher grade at a traffic light.
3. appearance is more important than substance. Big wheels are a must. I really want red brake calipers.
If you have a strong interest in this area, it is definitely better to buy an S or GTS.
On the other hand.If you are not particular about these, you can confidently choose the bare grade.I think. You probably won't think "S was better" after the fact, and in fact, if you compare it to the S, you won't feel the difference as much as the price difference.
the other dayI drove the 991.2 Carrera GTS on a mountain road with the same series of tight corners that this Cayman ran on.But to be honest, I enjoyed the Cayman more. The Carrera GTS had so much power that second gear was almost enough, and I could not enjoy upshifting, downshifting, and revving the engine. Thus, the Cayman would be the better choice for many narrow winding roads in Japan. On the other hand, on roads that can be driven at a high pace, such as large wide-area farm roads, a car with more power may be more enjoyable.
By the way, a friend of mine (hierarchy first. He used to buy and drive a bare-bones 718 Boxster, but then replaced it with a 718 Boxster GTS. And recently he has been giving me the following feedback.
The GTS is gorgeous and fast, but the bare Boxster is well-balanced and easy to drive. It wasn't until I replaced it that I realized how good the bare boxster was."
And. This is just my personal opinion, but I hope you will find it useful.
I have actually decided on my next car to replace my Panamera Turbo, but that car is a bare-bones grade, not a Turbo, S, or GTS. I hope to eventually talk about that on my blog.
...yes, I finally decided on my next car and put down a deposit!(You make it sound like I transferred the money, but it was my husband who did...)I will write an article about this soon. Stay tuned!
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Hello mina-san. I enjoyed reading your article again.
Thank you for writing about your thoughts on the "sound" that I had hoped for last time.
You finally bought a Panamera! Congratulations!
By the way, which is the same "plain (basic)", the "Panamera (unmarked/RWD)" or the "Panamera 4 (AWD)"?
Naya.
>Thank you for writing about your thoughts on the "sound" that I had hoped for last time.
I was just describing a little about the sound, good ^^^;
>You finally bought a Panamera! Congratulations!
Oh, I bought a different model, not the Panamera, so I will mention that one a little in tomorrow's article ^^^.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Thanks for your hard work.
I have actually decided on my next car to replace my Panamera Turbo, but that car is a bare-bones grade, not a Turbo, S, or GTS. I hope to eventually talk about that on my blog.
Holy crap, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, finally...
I wanted to take over the Panemela Turbo lol.
Bare bones models, we are waiting for you.
Congratulations again on your child!
Yossy.
Thank you!
>I was hoping to take over the Panemela Turbo lol
We would like to have you take it over (laughs).
We will touch on which model we chose in tomorrow's article.
Thank you very much for the pregnancy!
I have always enjoyed looking at your work.
After discovering how great Porsche is, my friends who used to drive Alpina are now switching to Porsche.
I am also reaching the age of 60 and am fantasizing about a Porsche as my last car. This article was also very helpful.
Thank you for your continued support.
Mr. M.
Thank you for everything!
>I am also reaching the age of 60 and am fantasizing about a Porsche as my last car. This article was also very helpful.
Oh yes!
I am happy to help you in your choice of Porsche, even if only in a small way.
Thank you for your continued support.
Mina.
I read your review of the 718 Cayman with interest.
When I owned a 718 Boxster MT in the past, I thought that there was a significant difference between when the turbo was working and when it was not. When driving at high speeds, the difference between the two is a good thing, but in urban driving conditions, there are many situations where the car must be driven at low speeds before the turbo kicks in, and it is regrettable that the 718's original qualities are not expressed in more situations.
Congratulations on your Panamera Turbo!
I'm taking the liberty of guessing that it's based on the Cayenne, but I look forward to when the results are announced on the blog.
Mr. Ishi.
Thank you for everything!
I see...it's true that in the city, there are a lot of traffic lights and you arrive at your destination without enjoying the benefits of the turbo.
I think I was like that.
I wish I could have driven on the highway.
I landed on a Panamera Turbo transfer, a model I never thought I'd see (laughs).
Hi Mina.
I was driving a 718 Cayman base model until a year ago, so I am nostalgic.
Mine was MT, but without PASM no sprocket is the same.
As for the suspension, it was not too hard from the beginning, but I remember that it became more supple after 2000 km.
In my case, the summer tires were 19 inches and there was no problem.
In SPORT mode, fuel consumption changed even when running at similar rpm with MT, so I think the fuel map is changed. Throttle response is much better in the same gear and rpm.
It is true that acceleration below 20 km/h may be a weak point of the car. The car's top speed is over 250 km/h, but the gear ratio is high because it is covered by 1st to 6th gears.
I suspect that the driver did not have time to look at the turbo boost display during the test drive, but the boost is not much unless the throttle is very open, so it is not effective at low speeds. On the other hand, the car should be fun on the highway, and the acceleration from about 70 km/h should be perfect for Japanese highways. The current Cayman S, 911, and above would accelerate much faster than the cars around them predict...
PorscheDreamer.
Thank you for everything!
>I remember that the suspension was not too hard from the beginning, but it became more supple after more than 2000 km.
After all, it becomes more supple as it runs.
I wanted to drive on the highway in Cayman.
In urban areas where there are many traffic lights and stop-and-go traffic, the 718 Cayman's true potential can be seen.
I guess I didn't realize it at all...I thought again.
Hi Mina.
I have recently commented on the PCCB.
In the end, PCCB decided to put it on.
The Corona has given me time to check the blog in between teleworking sessions, and I have reached this point.
I think ・・・・・・・・ is doing its job well in case you're interested: ・・・・
Once the data flew in, Porsche asked me in advance not to order it even if the data flew in.
They have been contacted and GT4 is on hold.
They say they don't know when it will be.
I actually drive an M3 now and have test driven the M2 Competition a few times.
I also test drove the 718 Cayman PDK in the nest for a few kilometers, but I had a slightly different impression of it than your husband.
I also have a WRX-Sti, so the following is a comparison that includes that as well.
Body rigidity, but I did not feel that the Cayman was that rigid.
I mean, I probably don't have that much sense.
I can tell if I change the rubber bushings to pillow, build a roll gauge, or increase the spots.
But the suspension was good.
M, every machine sits in a box and you can feel the suspension moving in each of the four corners of the box, but the Cayman
It was more of an impression that the body was moving in unison.
I think the short wheelbase helps.
The front, compared to the WRX with the same strut, the movement is softer and the fit is better.
The rear is still always stable due to the proximity of the engine.
Suspension is like M2=Cayman>WRXSti.
I wonder how this would taste in GT4...
Actually, this is the first time I'm buying a car without test driving it, so I'm a little worried if I don't like it when I drive it.
Brakes, but the nest Cayman seems puerile.
The WRX is a little less than the Cayman as it is in the nest, but it is much more effective because of the different pads.
This is the M2.
M2 > Cayman > WRX-Sti
I once test drove a Macan with red reinforced brakes, and I remember that they were better than those on a 2-ton car.
If it had been attached to a Cayman, which weighs 500 kg less, it might have been rated the same as the M2.
So I actually have high hopes for PCCB.
Front grip when cornering, but when the load is shifted to the rear by opening all the way before the clip.
The Cayman is very light off the front load.
On the track, I felt like I needed the old-fashioned left foot brake.
However, I did not feel uneasy at all, and it turned normally as it was, so it may be habituation.
In this area, the M2 with the engine in the front was more stable in the front.
However, when it comes to downhill, Cayman has the edge.
Well, it spins around.
There is no problem even at speeds that would cause understeer in RWD.
I don't think I can keep up with RWD on the way down, let alone on the way up.
And power is not a problem.
Handling for my taste is M3 > M2 > Cayman = WRX
Cayman seems a bit dull, and I think it is slow to react to the beginning of the cut.
The WRX is driven so the information is thin, but the quickness is just a little less than the M.
Overall, I think it is about the same as Cayman.
This also makes me wonder about GT4.
When I switched from the M3 to the WRX, I felt a lower center of gravity when turning around, but I did not feel that much difference in the Cayman.
It may be due to the engine position.
After all, I have not driven MR since MR2.
The engine blows up fine, but I felt the rpm drop was the slowest.
It does not have the most power, but the torque is comparable, so acceleration does not seem to be much different.
The M2 Competition is basically included from the start, so I was wondering if I could get a similar option for the Cayman in the nest and configure it.
I did the math and the difference is about 700,000.
The brake is calculated as it is in the nest, but if you choose PCCB, it goes over the other side.
I guess the evaluation depends on what you think about that, but if you can only afford one unit at this price difference...
I would choose M2, I think.
I still think it would be a bit tough with only one MR.
I've never driven one, but looking at the specs, I'd say the Cayman is more cost effective than the Cayman S.
The only thing I can't get is the brakes, so it would be nice to have a choice of red reinforced brakes.
I apologize for the length of the above.
Nak acid
I know how hard it is to be affected by Corona...my husband is currently working from home as well.
GT4, too, I see...
When will the Porsche factory reopen as well?
I guess it won't be for a while...
Thanks again for the details!
WRX, I would like to drive it once.
I imagine that it must be difficult and interesting in that way.
Every time you test drive a car, depending on the car you normally drive
I am keenly aware that the evaluation and feeling toward that car will be completely different....
I'm usually in a Cayman with a Panamera and a Cayman with a Panamera.
It's not the same as driving a Cayman with a BMW 320i in it.
It's totally different, so cars are interesting...
While reading Nak's comment.
I learned a lot, and I was reminded once again that cars are a very deep subject.
I hope you will be able to tell us more about it.
Thank you for your continued support.